Western Ashkenaz trop (leynen), and recordings

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29 נוב 2009 14:20 #1515 מאת
I would be delighted if you could add (more) leynen material to the Nusach Project, or if you could point me to any other site which would have such material. (Sound-only; I don't read music.)

Ideally, I think it would be valuable to have a grammar/phrase-based mini-course, but a "sulam zarka" would also be welcome. Longish sample readings would be a nice bonus.

I've obviously seen the Benno Weis post. Before I bother his daughter, does anyone know in what form she has the recordings (ie cassettes only, on the internet, ...)?

In case I haven't imposed enough yet, a side-question: How much variation is there between the leynen melodies of Frankfurt, Elsass-Lothringen, and England.

Aryeh

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01 דצמ 2009 03:02 #1517 מאת SBS
The B. Weis recordings are cassettes (last I checked which was about a year ago). I have the listing of what is available.

Steven

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01 דצמ 2009 03:03 #1518 מאת BAvis
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The Dartmouth Jewish Sound Archive has many but not all of the recordings of Mr. Benno Weis ob"m available on the internet for free. They are to listen only, not for download. The website is free, but you first need to be granted access, a simple process.

BAvis

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01 דצמ 2009 15:12 #1520 מאת
Thank you Steven and BAvis for your replies.

Steven, the Dartmouth archives seem to be sample leynings exclusively. Is that the case for all of the recordings, or is there also some "pedagogical" material? Could you also tell me what is available other than the "standard" Shabbes leynings?

Aryeh

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02 דצמ 2009 00:59 #1521 מאת rallisw
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What I have been asking for, for a while, is the complete trop notes to be posted on the Nusach Project for not only the weekly Touroh reading but for the Haftouroh, Yomim Nouroim, and the Chomaysh Megillous. (including the not often chanted notes, for example the Shalsheles, etc.)

Rallis

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03 דצמ 2009 14:43 #1527 מאת
Here is one resource I know of, with recordings and sheet music of the weekly trop according to Alsatian custom. (Recording in Real format.)

Please click here.

Aryeh

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04 דצמ 2009 03:17 #1528 מאת SBS
The Dartmouth archive is not complete but it is a good resource for quite a bit of material. You will need to request an ID that will need a follow up email outlining the reason you want access to the recordings. Just be prepared for that.

Steven

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27 דצמ 2009 03:54 #1552 מאת Michael
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Aryeh wrote: In case I haven't imposed enough yet, a side-question: How much variation is there between the leynen melodies of Frankfurt, Elsass-Lothringen, and England.

In the book "The Ashkenazi tradition of biblical chant between 1500-1900", Hanoch Aven Ary compared between these traditions, and his conclusion was that the differences are very minor and meaningless.

Michael FRBSH

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28 דצמ 2009 14:30 #1556 מאת
Thanks. I'll try to get access to Avenary's monograph, which I was not familiar with.

Does anyone have any thoughts regarding "The Music of the Hebrew Bible: The Western Ashkenazic Tradition" by Victor Tunkel?

Aryeh

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