Tallis color & stripes

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27 Jan 2009 03:27 #841 by SBS
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Have talleisim always been white, and, if so, why? Is it the same reason as the Kittel is white?

Did Talleisim always have stripes, and, if so, why? Why black stripes - or were they not always black? If not, what color were they? Why are the stripes positioned as they are, so that the stripes are on the section covering the shoulders only?

Steven

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27 Jan 2009 14:24 #843 by Daniel
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I don't believe that there would be any reason why the stripes would go over one's shoulders as really one should wear the tallis draped down over the arms so it is an atifa. This is what I understood from R' Hamburger. I believe that R' Hamburger mentions somewhere (although this should be confirmed) that the black stripes are to show our aveilus for Yerushalayim.

Daniel

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01 Feb 2009 03:16 #863 by Michael
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The use of lines in clothes is a very old Jewish style, and was found in Archeological diggings from the time of the second Temple. This may have originated from Yosef's Ksones Pasim.
There was no Halachik Hakpodo in Ashkenaz regarding the color of the Tallis, in Worms the Chazzan's Tallis was colorful. But usually all Talleisim were Black lines on white, most likely because this way one does not draw attention while Davening, and everyone has a similar Teffiloh garment.

Michael FRBSH

P.S. Rav Hamburger didn't recall a connection between the Black lines and mourning on the Churbon.

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03 Feb 2009 13:09 #871 by YCohen
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If you take a look at the painting "The Wedding" (1861) by Morritz Oppenheim, all the tallis stripes are blue.

YCohen

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04 Feb 2009 01:00 #873 by rallisw
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The Bad Homburg synagogue, in an effort to encourage early attendance, set aside three blue striped טליתות for the first boys under בר מצוה to arrive at synagogue.

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